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What do you guys feed your pets?

I know there are animal lovers on here (duh) and many of you are pet owners... So what kind of food do you feed your pets? I've been under the impression that vegan pet food will be costly and hard to find, that is, until I finally did some damn research... I guess now my only question is which kind do animals actually like? I dread the idea of buying a big ass bag of something my pets refuse to eat.

I have two cats and three ferrets that currently eat dry cat kibble, and, while I love them dearly, I know I'm not going to buy any kind of mix that requires me to add lentils or flour because, well, I'm lazy and forgetful. It's only by the grace of God that I manage to wipe myself. My rat eats square meal, but after reading the ingredients, I don't think there's anything gross in it. Could be mistaken, though... I'll have to double check.

Suggestions? Comments?

I was just thinking about this today and thought it was kind of funny... What if you had a terrarium where you grew Venus Flytraps? Should you feed them flies? LOL. Personally, I think, being plants, they somehow are allowed to be carnivores. :) But the image of someone feeding "vegan flies" to their pet venus flytraps just made me laugh.

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Here is a link on a discussion we had about cat food a little while ago.

http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=17349.0

Hope it helps!

Di

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Well my budgie eats mostly millet, but then he's vegan... :D :D
;D ;D ;D

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I have two cats and three ferrets that currently eat dry cat kibble, ....
Suggestions? Comments?

If you have ferrets,  you want to be feeding them either WYSONG or AFS

http://www.animalfood.com/
http://www.wysong.net/

Actually I feed both for the variety.  And I supplement (as a 'treat') with the "Chicken Nibblets" from AFS and any of the 100% pure ingredients from WHOLE LIFE.  WHOLE LIFE can be bought through this company:
http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Whole-Life-Pet-Treats/151001.aspx

As snacks, my guys loved the beef and salmon from WHOLE LIFE best.

AFS and Wysong are the next best thing to feeding naturally.  ;)  Which, if you have any questions about that, you can refer to any of these previous threads:

Feeding Your Companion Obligate Carnivore:
http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=17349.30
http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=13588.msg83914
http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=15330.msg98039#msg98039 
http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=14623.msg92542#msg92542
http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=16940.msg116352#msg116352
http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=16301.msg108274#msg108274
http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=13452.msg83903#msg83903

Incidentally, AFS and WYSONG also have cat formulations available.

cheers!

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Ferret Resources: http://nippynihon.blogspot.com/
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"It isn't better to feel joy than to feel grief.  It is certainly more fun  to feel joy--but it isn't better.  If something good is happening, it is appropriate to be joyful.  If you have experienced loss, it is equally appropriate to be sad."
-LIFE AFTER LOSS, Bob Deits

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Wow, those are a lot of discussions! Thanks for the links yogaferret. I think my cat would tear me to pieces if I tried to feed her vegan food. And she's in charge here, and has me well-trained, so I do as I'm told. Like she also will only drink running water these days, and gets on my case if I don't run the tap for her every hour or so. I leave fresh water out when I'm not at home but she doesnt drink it very much. She used to only drink water out of a bowl if I put the bowl in the shower?! :-) I'm serious! At least she doesn't demand that anymore. But it's always something, and after 15 years I'm sort of resigned to do whatever her heart desires.

Living with a budgie must be great yabbit! Does he talk a lot?

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My rat eats square meal, but after reading the ingredients, I don't think there's anything gross in it. Could be mistaken, though... I'll have to double check.

Suggestions? Comments?

I'd double check. One time the mom and pop pet store where I buy hamster and mouse food at was out. I was in a hurry, so I was going to get the similar looking rat food and was told it contained cat food. The cat food was in the large biscuit looking brown squares.
My hamsters and mice eat a seed and nut mix, fresh veggies, fresh fruit, tofu, and soy yogurt. (My daughter says I eat like a hamster!!! :))

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Living with a budgie must be great yabbit! Does he talk a lot?

Yes, though it's kind of like having a toddler--he doesnt' speak as clearly as say a parrot, so you kind  of have to get used to his voice. He doesnt' say the things I've tried to teach him such as "Hello" and "I love you"--but he picks up things he hears, like once lately I bumped the cage and he piped up, "Oh, I'm sorry!" That floored me. Then once my husband was doing his back-exercises lying on the floor and the bird looked at him and said "Tch--charming!" as I do when I'm disgusted at something. DH said he could almost see the raised eyebrows!

He's my first talking bird and all kinds of fun. I am so glad he lived through the winter, thanks in part to you guys!

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Ha ha!  :D He must be really fun to live with! What happened last winter? I hope it's better now, whatever it was.

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Sandee the pup eats V-dog supplemented with strawberries, melon, carrots, tofu, apples, bananas, cooked grains, pasta, green beans, legumes and anything else she is tempted to eat from the family table. 

She LOVES V-dog.  She had to be spayed about a month after her rabies shot and I had put her on the V-dog about 2 weeks prior to the rabies shot.  In the month between shot and surgery, she added 1 lb to her toy poodle frame.  I was scolded for overfeeding her, but I told them to look at her.  She is slim, trim, muscular, her coat GLOWS, her eyes are bright and, despite the fact that she has a weekly bath, she has no dry skin whatever (she did before V-dog). 

Sandee is little and eats plenty of people foods.  I paid about $25 for two 11.5 lbs bags and that included shipping.  I bought on April 10 and now on July 17, have about 1/3 of a bag left right now.  More than pet store food and certainly pricier than grocery store grub, she is healthy and happy, and VEGAN! 

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Wow, those are a lot of discussions! Thanks for the links yogaferret. I think my cat would tear me to pieces if I tried to feed her vegan food. And she's in charge here, and has me well-trained, so I do as I'm told.

No problem.  And those are just the discussions about obligate carnivores.  Dogs are a slightly different category and my focus is on obligate carnivores like the ferret (and cat).  Davedrum is the resident dog-expert.

I soooooo know what you mean-my guys were/are always in charge.  I had one boy that loved the water and he would jump in the dry bathtub and lay there waiting for me to turn the water on.  He liked to attack the running stream of water so I also had to leave the drain open a little so it wouldn't fill up so fast. 

Regarding your problem with the shower, did you know they have special "dishes" that work like a fountain to provide your cat with fresh water all the time?  I think they are counterindicated for ferrets because there are electric wires involved and you can't keep the fuzzies out of ANYTHING. So if you are interested in it for your cat and you happen to have ferrets too, you should look into it first.  Maybe ask around on the FML or even NaturalFerrets group on Yahoo.  NaturalFerrets  is in between the FML and FHL in terms of topic range -the FHL is very tightly monitored to keep on focus whereas the FML is a sortof  freeforall.  There are also lots of breeders on NaturalFerrets  so the past couple of months have seen lots of kit pictures.  :D

That last part included info for fauxsisticated, too.  ;)

cheers!

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Ferret Research: http://ferretknots.blogspot.com/
Ferret Resources: http://nippynihon.blogspot.com/
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"It isn't better to feel joy than to feel grief.  It is certainly more fun  to feel joy--but it isn't better.  If something good is happening, it is appropriate to be joyful.  If you have experienced loss, it is equally appropriate to be sad."
-LIFE AFTER LOSS, Bob Deits

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Ha ha!  :D He must be really fun to live with! What happened last winter? I hope it's better now, whatever it was.

Not sure what it was...he was moulting in mid-January, then stopped eating and was a sick little budgie boy...I found him on the bottom of the cage with his eyes shut and his wings half open, just standing in a corner. The VW gang gave me some good advice, and the excellent vibes and prayers we needed. 36 hrs later I had my lovely friend back, giving me hell.  ;D

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Wow, those are a lot of discussions! Thanks for the links yogaferret. I think my cat would tear me to pieces if I tried to feed her vegan food. And she's in charge here, and has me well-trained, so I do as I'm told.

No problem.   And those are just the discussions about obligate carnivores.  Dogs are a slightly different category and my focus is on obligate carnivores like the ferret (and cat).  Davedrum is the resident dog-expert.

Expert? Not really.....but thanks anyway! ;)
Dogs, cats and ferrets are carnivores (dogs being a bit more omni). Their teeth are designed to rip flesh, their digestive tracts are very short and designed to process meat and even bone very efficiently. It's selfish to force our "vegan lifestyle" on our pets. They don't have a choice any longer to hunt on their own. They depend on us to provide the best diet possible for them. That would be a natural meat based diet. I do hate knowing that animals die so that mine can live. I also know that if they lived in the wild they would be hunting daily to survive. My animals are all rescues....they did not ask to be born or brought into this world....breeders "force" animals into the world....purchasers of these animals are a big problem as to why I have so many rescues.it keeps the breeders in business...many of the pets end up in shelters. The huge shelter in Palm Beach County Fl. states that 50% of the dogs it takes in are purebreeds.  Most of mine are pure breeds that I found or rescued from shelters. Though I love having their companionship and cherish it.....it would have been better if they had never been bred in the first place. Yes, the environment we have created for pets is not "natural" or "native" in any means......but the one thing that has not changed is their digestive system. Please do the best you can do for your pets.

* Spay and Neuter, don't support breeders and breeding by buying a pet.

* Don't vaccinate ever again after the initial round of vaccines (would you do it to yourself or your children)?...

*Don't use any of those nasty flea & tick chemicals, don't give them heartworm junk every month. They are HORRIBLE for your pet.

*Buy or prepare for them them the best food possible......one that they are designed to eat...

*Still no dogs and cats foraging for food in my garden yet.......I'll keep ya' posted..... ;) ::)
(Though most of my dogs will nibble on some veggies)......

*Put out 2 bowls for your dog or cat. Fill one with peas and carrots, fill the other with fresh meat or fish. Let your pet decide what it wants to eat.......

*Switch your pet's foods from time to time.....nobody wants to eat the same food over and over everyday forever.....it's boring....dogs, cats, and ferrets are not boring......(don't believe the myth that they will get sick if you switch foods on them.....my own pets will tell you it's just not true).......

-dave

Educate yourself:
www.drmarty.com
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/healthypets.htm

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We feed our dogs Flint River Ranch lamb and millet kibble.

We also suppliment their meals with "homemade inner stew" or Newman's Own organic canned foods.

My theory is, feed what your pets do well on..whether it's cheap stuff or top shelf stuff.  While I have done my research and I know what to look for in pet food..we can't all afford to feed the really good stuff, and some dogs don't do well with the expensive stuff. You shoulnd't feel that just because you can't afford it, or your animal doesn't do well on it that your a bad pet owner.

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*Switch your pet's foods from time to time.....nobody wants to eat the same food over and over everyday forever.....it's boring....dogs, cats, and ferrets are not boring......(don't believe the myth that they will get sick if you switch foods on them.....my own pets will tell you it's just not true).......

In the case of ferrets this  IS true however.  Which is why it is recommended to feed multiple foods from the start.  If you are adding a new food you need to incorporate it gradually.  Same goes for if you are switching out a food.  Switch out gradually.

cheers!

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Ferret Research: http://ferretknots.blogspot.com/
Ferret Resources: http://nippynihon.blogspot.com/
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"It isn't better to feel joy than to feel grief.  It is certainly more fun  to feel joy--but it isn't better.  If something good is happening, it is appropriate to be joyful.  If you have experienced loss, it is equally appropriate to be sad."
-LIFE AFTER LOSS, Bob Deits

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I feed my cats Prowl. It's a raw food that you mix with warm water and let stand for ten minutes. it's pricey, but very nutritious and my picky cats go ape poopoo over it.

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