seeking opinions/recommendations.
hello there. i'm new to these forums, as well as new to veganism. (i have been a vegetarian for many years, but have recently decided to become vegan.)
my question to you is, which vegan cookbook is the best for extremely low-fat/low-calorie dishes? honestly, the reason i hesitated to make the switch was that everything vegan is so high in calories. my saying that may confuse you, because most people think vegan options are lower in calories, but i find this is untrue. (to be fair, i also have an eating disorder, so maybe it's just me who finds the calories in most vegan food to be absolutely and utterly ridiculous. i usually eat 100 - 150 calories a day, but vegan-wise, a single yogurt alone is 150 calories.)
apologies for the ramble and thanks for reading,
hayden
Hm, I'd think that the non-vegan versions of those types of items (like soy yogurt) would have just as many, if not more calories. Even non-fat milk is about 90 calories/cup.
I'd say that it's perhaps easiest to do a low fat/cal diet vegan, especially raw vegan, but I'm reluctant to recommend anything because you mentioned that you have an eating disorder, and eat 100-150 calories per day. IMHO, both of those numbers need an extra zero, even for someone looking to lose weight. I think when transitioning to veganism it's best to focus on getting a balanced diet and meeting your needs (in terms of flavor too, since if all you eat is (idk?) lettuce, you'll be missing cheese/dairy soon enough ).
100 to 150 calories a day is ridiculously low. forget the calories and eat healthy!
Hm, I'd think that the non-vegan versions of those types of items (like soy yogurt) would have just as many, if not more calories. Even non-fat milk is about 90 calories/cup.
I'd say that it's perhaps easiest to do a low fat/cal diet vegan, especially raw vegan, but I'm reluctant to recommend anything because you mentioned that you have an eating disorder, and eat 100-150 calories per day. IMHO, both of those numbers need an extra zero, even for someone looking to lose weight. I think when transitioning to veganism it's best to focus on getting a balanced diet and meeting your needs (in terms of flavor too, since if all you eat is (idk?) lettuce, you'll be missing cheese/dairy soon enough ).
nah, dannon light & fit yogurt is 60 calories a carton. as for milk, i never liked it, thus never consumed it straight. please, don't feel reluctant to recommend anything. i'm open to all suggestions. like i previously stated: i have an eating disorder. i know that number probably sounds extremely low to the rest of you, but for myself, it's plenty. i don't only eat lettuce but i don't let my caloric intake exceed 150 calories. thank you for your reply. :)
100 to 150 calories a day is ridiculously low. forget the calories and eat healthy!
thank you for your comment (really), but i wasn't looking for advice on my eating disorder -- i've heard it all a million times over. if it was that easy, i would have done it a long time ago. thanks though.
I think all you're going to get here are opinions of others as to your caloric intake....
Please don't take this as rude, because we are here to help, many here are living with eating disorders, but we do not make it a practice to enable others in their disease.
We want you to be healthy and happy.
Are you familiar with the Basal Metabolic Rate?
It is the lowest possible amount of calories your body needs to survive.
At 104lbs, 5'2", 27, my base amount is 1265 Cal.
Now, do I get that everyday? Probably not...but I also go over some days as well, which means it all evens out.
100 to 150 calories a day is ridiculously low. forget the calories and eat healthy!
thank you for your comment (really), but i wasn't looking for advice on my eating disorder -- i've heard it all a million times over. if it was that easy, i would have done it a long time ago. thanks though.
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I think all you're going to get here are opinions of others as to your caloric intake....
Please don't take this as rude, because we are here to help, many here are living with eating disorders, but we do not make it a practice to enable others in their disease.
We want you to be healthy and happy.
Are you familiar with the Basal Metabolic Rate?
It is the lowest possible amount of calories your body needs to survive.
At 104lbs, 5'2", 27, my base amount is 1265 Cal.
Now, do I get that everyday? Probably not...but I also go over some days as well, which means it all evens out.
agreed Hanashi, you just said it better than I did
recommending a low-fat/low-calorie vegan cookbook wouldn't be enabling me. but uh, okay.
thanks for a whole lot of nothing, guys.
i'll just go to barnes & noble today and find one myself.
this will be the last time i ever ask for advice on here again.
Well, I hope I don't add to the fire by saying that I think people are genuinely concerned about you and want to help, shatteringbones. Many people on vegweb also have experienced eating disorders too.
I've written a book which uses a color-coded system (green recipes are very light/lowfat, blue recipes are still pretty light but a little richer, and the purple recipes are the richest ones to be used in moderation). As someone who was obese for most of my 20s, I wanted to share what I'd learned about balance and finding holistic (whole, complete) health in my book. I also have much in the way of holistic advice & tools for total wellness in my book.
(mine is at www.radianthealth-innerwealth.com)
As far as a 100% VERY lowfat book, the only ones I know of are by Dr. John McDougall. He advocated an oil-free vegan diet. He and his wife are very thin, but eat lots of vegan food as long as it's lowfat and made from whole foods.
I'll be sending you love and hoping that you'll find just the right tool to guide you forward. Blessings!
your thread is called seeking OPINIONS/recommendations
I'm not being mean, but I also don't want to help you continue with your eating disorder.
I'm sorry you feel that people here weren't being helpful. VegWeb's actually a pretty great community of caring people, so I hope you don't leave us. I came here total stranger not knowing anyone on VegWeb several years ago, and I discovered a wonderful community of friends wanting to help each other, not to mention a wealth of resources. I hope you find that too. The responses to you were meant in the sincerest way.
To answer your question, The Vegan Table is a very good cookbook. Easy to follow recipes with calorie and nutrition information, photos and helpful tips. I hope this helps.
a good blog is Fat Free Vegan Kitchen.
Nutrient-wise, I think you'd be better off eating 150 calories worth of veggies, fruit, beans, and whole grains instead of yogurt (soy or dairy) or other processed foods and/or animal products. I'm no expert though.
Hi, Shatteringbones:
I'd like to address your original question. I believe that the cookbooks that advocate the lowest fat are the ones by John and Mary Mcdougall. John A. McDougall MD has written lots of books on healing and he is brilliant, and he advocates a very low-fat completely vegan diet for health. His wife Mary writes the cookbooks, and the recipes are easy to make and the food is delicious. There are several, this is one: The New McDougall Cookbook: 300 Delicious Ultra-Low-Fat Recipes. You can find other cookbooks by searching John McDougall MD at amazon or go to his website DrMcDougall.com and go to the store and checkout their books. 12 days to Dynamic Health is a really good one. I think that a little fat is good for you, especially raw fat like organic nuts and seeds, and avocado, but just a little. But we don't need much and the McDougall recipes form a great foundation to a healthy diet. The only thing I disagree with them about is the use of microwaves. I think that microwaving destroys the nutrition in your food (the calories are still there tho!) All of the McDougall books have good recipes included. I hope this helps. God bless you. -Lily Roze
I'll be mean.
You have an eating disorder and you're asking us to feed into it. Get help now and stop asking us to enable it.
With lovingkindness of course.