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The reason(s) on why people are becoming vegans

Why do you think people are becoming more and more vegans?

Do you think people are

1. Standing up for their beliefs more?

2. Theres more veggie foods available

3. Theres more recipes available. And vegans are veganizing more.

4. People are realizing how unhealthy it is eating dead flesh.

Or whatever else you can think of.

I think at least some of it is simple exposure... with the web & all, there's a greater awareness than, say, 20 years ago (or even 10) that people sometimes don't eat animals, and do so quite happily & healthily-- and so it doesn't seem as 'alien' or 'weird', so more folks are willing to view it as a possible option... Another factor is probably the constant stream of health-related data either indicting meat or touting benefits of plant foods (ie colorful veggies/ cancer prevention)-- I think that (again due to information media) there's a much better understanding that veggie eating tends to be healthy eating, compared to a decade ago. There are surely other things in play, but I think these are the biggest boosts to the 'mainstreaming' drift of veg eating. Which, of course, I support!  :)

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I agree with hotcooknmama that media exposure has a lot to do with it.  We have magazines and cookbooks out there now in mainstream bookstores that would be unheard of a decade or two ago.  There are countless vegan blogs, recipe sites, forums out there, and vegans are using their voices to challenge media publicized issues such as factory farming and low carb crazes.  We now have vegan symbols on clothing and other materials to indicate no animal testing or ingredients, similar to kosher symbols.  Many restaurants have vegetarian and vegan options listed on their menus.

I personally think that the health aspects of veganism is what has become so popular and what people are drawn to in a day and age when our obesity rate has skyrocketed and health problems abound.  Veganism offers "promises" of better health, lower weight, lower cholesterol, etc that people find attractive.  However, I think we are treading on dangerous water.  While I believe a vegan diet can be as healthy as an omnivore one, I do not believe it is the fix all perfect diet, and some of the claims made (cures for cancer for example) are questionable.  And this is precisely the argument that omnivores use to discourage people from trying it and why some people continue to think veganism is just another fad diet promise trying to cash in like everyone else.  I also believe the health craze overshadows the ethical reasons for veganism and that most people still do not understand fully the ethical philosphies of vegans.  People can grasp why a person would choose to go vegan for health reasons, even if they disagree with a vegan diet, but they can not comprehend avoidance of all animal products and viewing non human animals as equals with the same needs and rights.  If anything the vegan movement in the area of animal rights, abolitionist approach, animal welfare, labor and environmental issues has made little progress.  Most omnivores I have talked to or whom I have seen voice their opinions on various articles pertaining to these issues are still very apathetic about it or they strongly believe organic farming and "humanely" raised animals/eggs for food is justifiable and sustainable in this day and age. Or that breeding and manipulating animal genes for our benefit (aka pets, testing for cures for diseases etc)  is ok.  Factory farming has still proliferated (with the exception of the veal industry), and overfishing is still killing off whole populations of various fish.  The demand for fish oils, vitamin D3, organic eggs, and high protein low carb meats are all stressing animals and the Earth to a greater degree.  And other cultures are embracing our Western way of life with the inclusion of fast food and factory farming. 

I guess I still support bringing awareness to the vegan way of living and bringing it mainstream even if the main focus is on diet, but I would like to see bringing other vegan issues such as carnism, abolitionist approach etc to the mainstream as well.  I still have to order books like "Sistah Vegan" or "Vegan Freaks" online as I have not found them in mainstream bookstores like Barnes and Noble.  I have found "Animal Liberation" and "The Sexual Politics of Meat" in Barnes and Noble though, buried in the Women Studies or Ethics sections.  But hey it's a start!  I know there are individuals and groups out there doing what they can to bring voice to these issues.  It's tough to do without sounding preachy or cultlike and i think this scares people away.  But tip toeing around issues and being nice about them has not worked either.  Civil rights and women's rights didnt find success because they stroked the egos of their oppressors.

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I know why I'm vegan..and maybe this is on a seperate topic..but I'd like to know why people aren't vegan.

I'm a newbie. 6 months now :)

I quit meat cold turkey(no pun intended) OVERNIGHT! I don't crave it...have no taste for it....makes me gag...etc etc...My boyfriend
is the opposite. Meat and potatoes( You know the type.) Without vegweb :)>>> and various books and blogs I'd seriously feel like the only one.

I hear the excuse from the  people I know "oh but meat is cheaper" "I don't have time" "I LOVE STEAK" over and over. It makes me sad. If I can do it anyone can. I never used to cook much before i went vegan. Mac n cheese, eggs, maybe a casserole or two..but now I cook everyday. I LOVE IT! I can't get my BF to touch it. not once! I bake my own bread, pretzels, muffins...the list goes on. I bring muffins and cupcakes to work because I can't consume all of it..my co workers love it. "this is vegan!?" they say. HAHA. I even get requests. Now thats all fine and dandy. I like it. One vegan muffin at a time! but they wont change, my bf won't change, my family won't change.

So they try a muffin..GREAT!

They like my vegan cupcakes...AWESOME!

They ask me questions.."why are you vegan?" "what do you eat?" etc etc...

but then they go home...eat their steak and don't think twice. WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE VEGAN????

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I know why I'm vegan..and maybe this is on a seperate topic..but I'd like to know why people aren't vegan.

I'm a newbie. 6 months now :)

I quit meat cold turkey(no pun intended) OVERNIGHT! I don't crave it...have no taste for it....makes me gag...etc etc...My boyfriend
is the opposite. Meat and potatoes( You know the type.) Without vegweb :)>>> and various books and blogs I'd seriously feel like the only one.

I hear the excuse from the  people I know "oh but meat is cheaper" "I don't have time" "I LOVE STEAK" over and over. It makes me sad. If I can do it anyone can. I never used to cook much before i went vegan. Mac n cheese, eggs, maybe a casserole or two..but now I cook everyday. I LOVE IT! I can't get my BF to touch it. not once! I bake my own bread, pretzels, muffins...the list goes on. I bring muffins and cupcakes to work because I can't consume all of it..my co workers love it. "this is vegan!?" they say. HAHA. I even get requests. Now thats all fine and dandy. I like it. One vegan muffin at a time! but they wont change, my bf won't change, my family won't change.

So they try a muffin..GREAT!

They like my vegan cupcakes...AWESOME!

They ask me questions.."why are you vegan?" "what do you eat?" etc etc...

but then they go home...eat their steak and don't think twice. WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE VEGAN????

They are not familiar on how super a vegan diet is and they don't know how to familiarize themselves with it is my guess.

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They ask me questions.."why are you vegan?" "what do you eat?" etc etc...

but then they go home...eat their steak and don't think twice. WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE VEGAN????

I live in the western burbs of Portland, OR.  I see a lot of anti-vegan prejudice.  I think it is a backlash against the in your face activists and those that get the "I'm better than  you because of what I (don't) eat" attitudes.  Change is hard for most people.  I just lost a sis-in-law to health conditions that were most likely diet and lifestyle related.  When I was trying to "eat healthy" but still omni several years ago, she accused me of making her suffer when I did not want to cook 5 desserts for Thanksgiving dinner for a grand total of 8 people for dinner. (I did offer her recipes to help with the cooking but she refused.  It was my job)  I finally got her to try hummus just a months weeks ago.  She thought it was "weird but good", a big change in attitude for her.

What really got me to seriously concider cooking vegan at least a few days a week was part of the intro to The Conscious Cook  , no guilt trips, only reasons to concider for doing it and the acceptance that even 1-2 days a week was a step in the right direction even if it never went farther.

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movies and books are becoming more mainstream on the health, environmental, and ethical impacts of being vegan

vegan food is very easily available (they sell tofu and smart dogs and such at Target now!)

veganism is "hot" right now as is health and being "green"

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My reasons are tax resistance, frugal living, mobility (don't even need a fridge when you're vegan), agricultural efficiency, self-reliance, and of course health.  An ideal rationalist diet might include just a little bit of animal products (ex. 4 servings of sardines a week for natural vitamin D and B12, as well as some extra protein and calcium), but there are some psychological advantages to going 100% pure vegan to avoid the slippery slope.

I thought about going vegan a lot over the past ~6 years, but I've spent only about 1.5 years as a vegan, mainly because I don't like most vegans for political reasons.  It's a really big turn-off.  Veganism should NOT be synonymous with environmentalism, "animal rights", socialism, feminism, and other irrational BS.  A lot more people would be vegans if it wasn't.

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My reasons are tax resistance, frugal living, mobility (don't even need a fridge when you're vegan), agricultural efficiency, self-reliance, and of course health.  An ideal rationalist diet might include just a little bit of animal products (ex. 4 servings of sardines a week for natural vitamin D and B12, as well as some extra protein and calcium), but there are some psychological advantages to going 100% pure vegan to avoid the slippery slope.

I thought about going vegan a lot over the past ~6 years, but I've spent only about 1.5 years as a vegan, mainly because I don't like most vegans for political reasons.  It's a really big turn-off.  Veganism should NOT be synonymous with environmentalism, "animal rights", socialism, feminism, and other irrational BS.  A lot more people would be vegans if it wasn't.

Regarding this statement,

"...I thought about going vegan a lot over the past ~6 years, but I've spent only about 1.5 years as a vegan, mainly because I don't like most vegans for political reasons.  It's a really big turn-off.  Veganism should NOT be synonymous with environmentalism, "animal rights", socialism, feminism, and other irrational BS.  A lot more people would be vegans if it wasn't."

If you have personal reasons for going vegan, why would liking or disliking vegans stop you from doing so?  You're making a decision on how to live your life, not joining a group.

My personal belief is that people choose a vegan lifestyle either for ethical or health reasons.  It seems to me that if you are an ethical vegan, animal rights are an inherent factor. Other issues may impact a person's decision to become vegan, but I've never met or read someone as saying they went vegan purely for environmental reasons.  As for socialism, feminism and other irrational BS, I've never even heard or seen that given as a reason.

I think that choosing to live as a vegan is like choosing your religious beliefs. It is personal to each person and must be a reflection of how you truly believe.  No one can make someone else a vegan. Or a christian.  Or an atheist.  etc.  I neither want nor need anyone else's approval or validation for my life choices.

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I agree that one shouldn't attach cultural associations to personal decisions, I was just saying what my big turn-offs from veganism were.

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It's a really big turn-off.  Veganism should NOT be synonymous with environmentalism, "animal rights", socialism, feminism, and other irrational BS.  A lot more people would be vegans if it wasn't.

I's really a big turn off to be told your beliefs are "irrational bullshit".  Obviously you're not looking for anyone to remotely respect your viewpoint because you don't give it out.   Yep, vegans are annoying.

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I did link to my explanation of why "animal rights" are "irrational BS" (and further discussion of this should probably be moved to that thread).  You genuinely do have the Right to like animals, to create a paradise for animals that you own, to donate to non-legislative animal welfare charities, etc.  But forcing your beliefs on others through the violence of the state is irrational and dangerous, as I've explained.

Rights are objective empirically-measurable economic phenomena, similar to the laws of physics - you cannot simply make them up!  When you turn your emotions into "rights", all you are doing is violating the actual Rights of other people!  If somebody wants to rape you, and feels the same emotional intensity as you feel in your desire to protect other people's animals, does that give him/her the "right" to do so with impunity?!

We need to separate dietary veganism from "animal rights" once and for all, just like the "gay rights" movement has separated itself from pedophilia.  Just because you avoid the wasteful and dirty tradition passing your nutrients through an animal's body doesn't automatically mean you want to throw people in prison for leaving their dog outdoors!

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I's really a big turn off to be told your beliefs are "irrational bullshit".  Obviously you're not looking for anyone to remotely respect your viewpoint because you don't give it out.   ...

no clapping smiley, Tweety, so  ;)b

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Has anyone read the China Study or watched the Documentary "Forks over Knives"?
Speaks for itself really...

Being vegan is becoming more popular because people want to live better, healthier longer lives. Meats and Animal based products are horrible for the body is so many ways, from cancer to diabetes. I have been vegan for since 2005. My first physical after becoming Vegan my Dr looked at me dumbfounded and said "What did you do?" my Bad cholesterol was down, my BP was down, I all but cured my Neutropenia, heart burn and chronic dry skin. I have seen so many health benefits, not to mention I stay damn near in competition ready condition year round, and it's as easy as maintaining a Vegan lifestyle and diet.

I am over 200lbs and 5'9.5" so any guy (or you girls boyfriends/husbands) that says you don't get enough protein being Vegan or Vegetarian is more than welcome to ask me any questions they want about "where do you get your protein from?" I can guarantee they will be amazed at how the body performs on a plant based diet. Not to mention most of the greatest conditioned athletes in the world are adapting a Vegan or Vegetarian lifestyle and diet.

Maybe as a civilization we are finally starting to wake up and realize the damage we have been doing to not only our bodies but our earth as well, maybe as a civilization we are actually evolving and getting smarter... who knew?

Cy

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  Maybe as a civilization we are finally starting to wake up and realize the damage we have been doing to not only our bodies but our earth as well, maybe as a civilization we are actually evolving and getting smarter... who knew?

@veg_body_bldr
i hope that you are right and hopefully not a case of to little to late

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I have a few ideas of why people are becoming vegan more so than they were before because:

1)It's cheaper in the long-run.if you pay $.39 to $2 for a vegetables compared to $2 to $18 on some kind of meat(yeah I've seen a ham that was almost 18 dollars) and there's not a lot of jobs out there,so of course people are gonna eat thriftier.and also when people get healthier from a vegan diet,they also save money on medications that they would take,but they don't need anymore.

2)people are starting to understand how food affects them and that you can rely on gov't all the time or with what they say.a lot of bad things in meat,but yet they allow it knowing it's getting us sicker.

3)it's affecting the planet around us.

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I plan to go vegan. At the minute I'm going vegetarian. Walk before I run and all that jazz.

But I think nowadays it's easier to go vegan. There's more alternatives out there and have become more accessible. So people who thought about it don't have such a hard time changing their diet. Years ago it would have been much more difficult to manage that.

Also sites like this provide so many alternative recipies that people wouldn't have known about before. And having that bit of extra support would make it much easier for people to stick to it rather than trying it and giving up if the fail. Especially when friends and family probably think they're crazy for going vegan. Sad but true.

 

 

 

 

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hotcooknmama nailed with exposure--although my exposure to veganism initially came through meeting other vegans on a personal level.  I dated a vegan for a brief period of time and learned a lot about it through that relationship-- Still, at the time I thought it was too complicated and it wasn't until more recently that the light click on and I got it. Understanding where things come from (beyond the shelf at the grocery store) was the turning point from my omnivore lifestyle to being vegan (and there was no buffer between, meat to no-meat and I'm never looking back).  It's true there is a lot of exposure on a plant-based diet and health benefits, but living compassionately and not supporting industries and practices that repulse me were the biggest selling points of veganism.  It's very hard to separate the ethical convictions behind being vegan verses just eating plant-based foods--I think they are completely connected and justifiably so, however, in the end it's a choice to be vegan and I'm glad more people are choosing it.

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