Vegans don't usually get enough lysine
Posted by nsfdri on Jul 11, 2011 · Member since Feb 2011 · 5 posts
I have been doing research on vegan nutrition recently. I've found it nearly impossible to get enough lysine in a vegan's diet, by either US standards (51 mg/g of protein) or World Health Organizations standards (45 mg/g of protein). The only way I have found to get enough lysine in a vegan diet is to consume half your protein content via isolated soy protein. Do all you vegans do that? There are also deficiencies in Vitamin B12, Vitamin D, and Calcium in a vegan diet, but those can be supplemented for. My question is how do you vegans get enough lysine, an essential amino acid, in your diet?
Hey, pm, the lyrics remind me of your journey.
Hey, pm, the lyrics remind me of your journey.
Hmm..ya know..I didn't think about it that way but I see it! Nice connection. :)
Since this thread has obviously degraded into emotional rhetoric, I'll end with this one of my own:
But gee, nsfdri, your way was acomplishing so much......
Oh and by the way, sunshine is NOT emotional, mister
Oh and also by the way, my name is Charlie and it is very nice to meet you!
Versus.
Verses - lines of a poem or song
Versus - in opposition or contrast to
Verses - lines of a poem or song
Versus - in opposition or contrast to
Versus - the beginning of the end for Pearl Jam
Verses - lines of a poem or song
Versus - in opposition or contrast to
Versus - the beginning of the end for Pearl Jam
You didn't like this album?
Verses - lines of a poem or song
Versus - in opposition or contrast to
Versus - the beginning of the end for Pearl Jam
You didn't like this album?
Sure, but they were on their way out, I think. Well not out, but standing to leave.... Most bands would not be able to top a huge smash like 10, so I don't fault them much. Perhaps too I was on the way out of grunge myself - was getting ready to graduate...from a state school =(
Verses - lines of a poem or song
Versus - in opposition or contrast to
Versus - the beginning of the end for Pearl Jam
You didn't like this album?
Sure, but they were on their way out, I think. Well not out, but standing to leave.... Most bands would not be able to top a huge smash like 10, so I don't fault them much. Perhaps too I was on the way out of grunge myself - was getting ready to graduate...from a state school =(
Ah yes. Good point. I do like the older Pearl Jam. Have you listened to any of Eddie Vedder's solo work? I hear good things but I've not listened to it.
Ah yes. Good point. I do like the older Pearl Jam. Have you listened to any of Eddie Vedder's solo work? I hear good things but I've not listened to it.
Hadn't until just now, on your suggestive reference. Not bad some of the acoustic stuff on youtube. I saw him on Iconoclasts with Laird Hamilton's -amazing surfer- a couple years ago. I was cool to see him, but it was actually hamilton that stole the show - his training regmine and physical feats were killer!
And of course it is "Ten" and "Vs." Man it is either I am getting old or those darned state school standards....
~I may not always get it right the first time, but I will *usually* fess up *eventually* after I do~ C_F_F
this is slightly amusing now... wow
C_F_F, I really liked your elegantly written POV like 5 pages back :)
i think nutrition isn't a one size fits all thing and i don't think it has to be over analyzed to death like this...
i have never felt better... i must be doing something right... and i think most peeps here would agree, lysine obsession or not
cff: I hadn't really listened to Pearl Jam until Edddie Vedder started playing at Bridge School (Neil's annual benefit show). I don't know about albums and declines, but yeah, it's not really grunge. I think Eddie Vedder's voice carries it no matter what, though. I still don't own any music, but I like it.
nsfdri: The only things we modify are recipes. In the forum, we remove spam and move entirely misplaced threads (e.g., we'll move a cookbook recipe review thread started in Stroller Derby to Cookbook Lab).
In general, a forum post can be modified by anyone when used as a quote in someone else's post. Your original post would be unchanged, but the purple box quote could look different. A lot of people will pare a quote post to the part to which they're responding.
is Dalida back?
promise?
this is slightly amusing now... wow
C_F_F, I really liked your elegantly written POV like 5 pages back :)
i think nutrition isn't a one size fits all thing and i don't think it has to be over analyzed to death like this...
i have never felt better... i must be doing something right... and i think most peeps here would agree, lysine obsession or not
Thanks amymylove. Someone needed to put the flames out, I'm just a do-gooder at heart ;)
You are SO right! Also big contributors to this (if elephants don't need to know, neither do I) approach are meat eaters, though they don't know it. As I argue with more of them about the sickness of the standard american diet, I realize that life is truly a lot more like Mark Twain wrote, "Statistics don't lie but all statisticians are liar." The reports/studies/findings are endlessly conflicted, on all sides, about anything. So it is like all sides are right and all sides are wrong at the same time. Insane! There simply is no way we are ever going to get a 100% fool-proof, fail-safe, like you said "one size fits all" set of findings. I don't bury my head in the sand by any means, but rather I look at what evidence readily available, make a decision (or not) and know that so long as I keep the fresh fruit, veggies, berries, nuts, beans, seeds, and (esp) water coming the world keeps turning, as does my physiology.
The quote is: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." ~ My Autobiography: The Chapters from the North American Review by Mark Twain
eta: The above was used in Twain's autobiography but he was actually quoting British politician, Benjamin Disraeli.
Okay...
eta: I might as well add a quote to this quotefest,"Shut the fuck up." -Anom.
And this thread needs to die.
Au revoir!
eta: I might as well add a quote to this quotefest,"Shut the fuck up." -Anom.
ROFL.
That reminds me of when a sailor said he was harnessing dolphins to his dingy because he wanted a porpoise driven life...boat. - no, no, NOOOOO I do NOT think a porpoise is a dolphin!!!!!!! I also do NOT think a dingy and a lifeboat are the same!!!!!! Also I probably misspelled a m-f-ing word here and there!!!!! Forgive me, I just see the current nature of this thread and felt that preemption was in order. ;)
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics
Thanks for pointing this out. I think I made a twisted version of ^ that and "Figures don't lie, but liars do figure."
The good news: we are now actually shedding some light on some things in this thread. Perhaps my greatest service here was to mis-quote my fellow Missourian!, even after I visited his house, which is built in the basement of the log cabin that Abraham Lincoln was born in, which incindentally honest Abe built with his own hands. ;)
eta: btw, i know for a near-certain guess that I think it was Mark Knopfler who described this thread the best: "...money for nothing and your pricks for free"
I think this thread was relatively calm. Multiple posters presented focused info. On vw, there's going to be dissent about everything (even, to my shock, that kidney beans rock - they do). Even the all-sides baiting was calm compared to yesteryear.
Knock Knock.
Who's there?
Vitamin.
Vitamin who?
Vitamin for a party!
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