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Cheerios, Sugar, and Vegans

Do any of the vegans on this board eat Cheerios?

Even the plain, original, unsweetened Cheerios have sugar in them, much to my surprise. As we know, most sugar, and all cane sugar to my knowledge, is processed with animal bones. Can you call yourself a vegan if you eat a product which simply lists "sugar" as an ingredient?

Similarly, vegetarians who eat cheese usually don't know what kind of rennet was used, unless they buy the cheese or consume it at a progressive V friendly company/restaurant  (i.e. Trader Joes, Chipotle). At most restaurants and groceries you don't have a clue.

I think people do the best they can.  There's a range, from what I've seen.  Some people don't worry about sugar at all and some people won't eat anything with sugar without knowing a source.  A very informal observance on my part has me think that a lot people buy vegan sugar for their home, but they don't stress it in premade food.  I'd still consider them vegan.

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I agree with HH...There always seems to be cheerios in my home, from when i babysit my little cousins, but from time to time ill snack on them. I buy vegan sugar, but dont stress it in cheerios.

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beyond sugar, i thought the vit d in cherrios isn't vegan.

DR eats them (well, the healthy brand) but they have honey in them. not vegan really.

i'm not picky about sugar - i do what i can.

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I don't eat sugar, but I do keep Rapadura crystals around for baking.

I also thought that only about half of the sugar produced in the US used bone char?

eta: According to Wiki ( ::)) only about 25% of the sugar is processed with bone char.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_char

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I don't eat sugar, but I do keep Rapadura crystals around for baking.

I also thought that only about half of the sugar produced in the US used bone char?

eta: According to Wiki ( ::)) only about 25% of the sugar is processed with bone char.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_char

yeah, I was going to chime in and say this. Refined sugar still isn't good for you, but I wouldn't really stress it

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I agree with HH as well.  There as such a thing as being practical.

Nonetheless, on this and the other V boards, you will find posts from vegans who compare ovo-lacto  vegetarians (or ovo or lacto) to meat eaters (usually they will say omnivores). To equate ovo-lacto vegetarians with meat eaters, in terms of exploitation of animals and animal suffering, is simply ludicrous.
I don't know any Vs of any variety in my area (that's why I am here at vegweb), but I can't believe that most vegans equate vegetarians who consume eggs or dairy (milk, cheese) with people that eat beef, pork, fish, fowl, deer, turtle, rabbits, dogs, etc. I also find it more than a little hypocritical if such posters eat Cheerios or any other processed food with sugar of an unknown origin.

MDVEGAN, on the sugar issue, even if Wiki  is correct, there is still a major problem, because most sugar sold in groceries in the US doesn't specify sugar cane or beet juice as a source. Most brands don't want to say beet juice because people think cane sugar is superior. I've even seen a brand recently that said "real sugar" on the bag (I guess as opposed to "fake sugar"!). Is that real evaporated beet juice sugar or real process sugar cane?

For those who don't live on the east or west coast or in Chicago, it is much easier to be a vegan/vegetarian in one's home.

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beyond sugar, i thought the vit d in cherrios isn't vegan.

I e-mailed them about this recently:

> Dear Valued Consumer:

> Thank you for contacting General Millswith your inquiry.
>
> The Vitamin D3 is sourced from lanolin from sheep's wool.

> We hope you find this information helpful.  Please let us know
> if we can help you again.

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I don't stress too much about sugar right now, and am working on the rennet thing, but I guess my main focus is on eliminating things that are blatantly animal products or rely heavily on them.  I mean, if a bunch of people stop eating steak, cow production for meat will decrease, so there will be less cow bones to use in the sugar, so they will find a different source of purification for it. I mean, they aren't killing the animals for the bones, they're killing them for other things, and the bones are the "leftovers".  Not that I think it's right, by all means, it sucks, but I also can't afford really good vegan sugars right now.  I get the dollar stuff, if i'm lucky. I feed 2 people on $20 a week. For me, I do what I can, and I think that for my diet, there are bigger concerns than sugar.

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beyond sugar, i thought the vit d in cherrios isn't vegan.

I e-mailed them about this recently:

> Dear Valued Consumer:

> Thank you for contacting General Millswith your inquiry.
>
> The Vitamin D3 is sourced from lanolin from sheep's wool.

> We hope you find this information helpful.  Please let us know
> if we can help you again.

Vegan Eating Out

Most major manufacturers of cereal use animal derived vitamins in their cereal. I am not surprised about this. I hate cheerios anyway

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i dont  like them too. they are pretty boring.

Mr.C, we're not like that on here. we're pretty cool with anyone as long as they are cool. it is a "vegan" board, though, so we don't allow posts about veggie things. not that we don't like veggies, but because vegan = everyone here can eat it (baring food allergies/etc).

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MrC, here on VW we are intensely practical, hands-on people. We do what we can. Everyone's on a different path. In my experience, only one person who is no longer a part of this board ever went around slapping labels on us lowly ovolactos. But the rest of us really only want to make the world a better--and tastier!!--place

As far as sugar goes, it's strange that there would be sugar in Cheerios, but then US manufacturers put sugar and salt in just about everything. I guess the only way out is to eat your own cooked cereal, like oatmeal, grits, etc. or to make your own muesli. There's a very good and accidentaly vegan muesli here (Dicke's brand) buuuut...with all the coconut, dried fruits, nuts etc. it works out to almost 400 calories a serving!! EEEK! So muesli is a now-and-then snack and I *don't* eat a whole serving!!

BTW thanks for your PM. I will eventually respond...but my printer just died and we're in the grip of summer here...45ºC.

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??? Thanks to all that participated, enjoyed all your responses. I thought this was a vegetarian board!  (really!!!) Thanks for educating me baypuppy. Now that I know, I will tread lightly! Once again, "a stranger in a strange land."

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beyond sugar, i thought the vit d in cherrios isn't vegan.

I e-mailed them about this recently:

> Dear Valued Consumer:

> Thank you for contacting General Millswith your inquiry.
>
> The Vitamin D3 is sourced from lanolin from sheep's wool.

> We hope you find this information helpful.  Please let us know
> if we can help you again.

Vegan Eating Out

Oh yum. Wool grease in my cereal. Tasty. NOT!!

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??? Thanks to all that participated, enjoyed all your responses. I thought this was a vegetarian board!  (really!!!) Thanks for educating me baypuppy. Now that I know, I will tread lightly! Once again, "a stranger in a strange land."

well, uh, i wasn't intending to suggest that veggies aren't welcome here. just to clarify that point  ;)b

even if you post about something unvegan, you won't get your head ripped off. unless it is obvious you're being an ass.

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i heard that even though most of the sugar (unless it is a nice expensive brand anyway) doesn't say beet and/or cane sugar, if you look at the manufacturing address you can tell if it is beet or cane.

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i heard that even though most of the sugar (unless it is a nice expensive brand anyway) doesn't say beet and/or cane sugar, if you look at the manufacturing address you can tell if it is beet or cane.

Huh!  I'd like to know more about that!  Interesting.

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Is beet sugar any healthier for you than refined cane sugar? Don't think we get any beet sugar in NZ; just curious.

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Is beet sugar any healthier for you than refined cane sugar? Don't think we get any beet sugar in NZ; just curious.

Not particularly healthier (sugar is sugar) but beet doesn't use bone char in the processing. I'm lucky, here in Europe unless it says "cane sugar" it's beet.

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Is beet sugar any healthier for you than refined cane sugar? Don't think we get any beet sugar in NZ; just curious.

Not particularly healthier (sugar is sugar) but beet doesn't use bone char in the processing. I'm lucky, here in Europe unless it says "cane sugar" it's beet.

that is how i roll. if it is "sugar" it is beet unless it says cane. i guess there was a campaign back in the day to promote cane as a "healthy sugar" to give your family, so its more marketed/branded. that and if you think of how veggie-phobic people are, i don't think selling BEET SUGAR will get them buying it!

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Now I've got the old C and H Sugar jingle running thru my head! Now that I know that HI became a state in 1959, the pro-Hawaiian-paradise hype when I was a kid in the 60's makes a lot more sense. They even had a special Dennis the Menace annual on his trip to Hawaii.  ::)

And Robert Dole of Dole Pineapple fame basically owned one of the islands.

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