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vegan parenting chit-chat

There are often questions that pop up about feeding toddlers, or dealing with relatives, etc. I thought it would be nice to have an all-inclusive thread for us parents to share tips and recipes, or just let off some steam. Eh?

Here's my vegan lunchbox rip-off: what my kid ate today
B-husband made french toast for her while I was grocery shopping
L-this sandwich http://www.vegetariantimes.com/recipes/10985?section= potato and green bean salad, cherries, chips, a brownie(we had a picnic with my parents)
Early dinner/snack- half a bagel with almond butter, pudding
I'm sure she'll have a bedtime snack later

An old friend of mine (from high school) invited us to her son's birthday party, next week and I'm torn on whether we should go or not.

They're FAR from veg - there'll be cake and ice cream full of animal products.  Probably only hot dogs and hamburgers for food.  (We went last year and sure enough, even though I told her we were veg there were NO veg options for us to eat) Lots of crap candy.  I'm sure you all can imagine.

Also, the kid is kind of a brat.  He watches violent cartoons all day long, is spoiled relentlessly by his grandparents (the kid has every stupid toy fisher price ever made) and eats all sorts of crap food, including only those capri sun drinks (which'll be the only drink for the kids available) with high fructose corn syrup and chemical perservatives.  He's also vaccinated (which my kids aren't) and attends a day care a few days a week.  He's not the sort I want my kids getting ideas from, you know?

We went to a birthday party a few months ago for my sister's friend's kid and it was also a disastrous.  No veg options, disgusting cake and ice cream, only soda and capri sun to drink.  A few days after the party, both my girls came down with bad colds (and they've been sick only maybe a couple times each in their short lives) and then, so did I.  So, you can guess how enthusiastic I am about going to another one.

I'm not trying to be one of those veg moms who never lets my kids do anything "normal" but I feel like I'm compromising my principles by taking them and just letting them eat and act however.  I don't want to show them that behavior is acceptable, but I also want them to be kids and have fun!

Where's the fine line?  How do you guys judge what's right and what's fun?

I think it is important as a parent (not just a Vegan one, either) that we set a good example in every area possible.

I don't know if it was meant to be, but seeing how one can't hear the tone in text, it seemed like you were almost snobbish while telling this story.
I'm sure I will step on someones toes, but so be it.

Being Vegan doesn't make you a better person, a smarter person, a god etc. You are simply another form of the guy next door.
We could easily say we're more aware and compassionate for all living beings, how do measure that? I have no idea.
I know Omni's that put in more hours volunteering with animals then I do, I know Omni's who run the soup kitchen that I've never been to etc.
Keep in mind that we're all humans, we all have the same needs, wants and goals, to be happy, fulfilled and at peace.
Some just go about it differently since happiness and peace is different from person to person.

I don't know how the host of the party is as a person, but I think it goes without saying that she can't be that wicked and mean or she wouldn't of invited you and your little one, right?
I also feel sort of bad reading the story, bad for that mother and her child, I would never want someone around me, vegan or not, that talks that poorly of me and worst yet, my child.

You're little one is invited to the party, keep that in mind, the parents obviously think they are friends, surely if he said "I hate that kid" they wouldn't invite yours, yes?
So let your little one be a kid, they have plenty of time to grow up and be judgmental and rude, let them just breathe easy and have fun regardless if the guy next to her eats animals or not.

He is a child, he only knows what his parents have taught him, and they only know what theirs taught them and what they've been willing to learn as adults, I can say that the sure fire way of turning someone off of Vegans and their kids is to act holier then thou.

Any way, this is a long rant because it was needed, to read "A friend from HS" and "the kids a brat" from an adult is shocking, I hope that your own little one is never called a brat, and also never grows up to judge anyone in such a way.

In closing, you're the only Vegans there, you can not expect a mother trying to plan a party for her child and doing all of that work to  remember to research and plan what to do for the two vegans, that's your job!
It's your chance to set a good example, bring a yummy dish you can eat as a main, bring a sweet, turn them onto the tastes of good Vegan food, not turn them off with being abscent because of food issues and/or rude.

Just remember, we all started some where, we all knew a Vegan a Vegetarian an activist etc, none of us would be here if they put such a sour taste in our mouths back then would we?

Good luck to you and your little one at the party.

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Hey, all! my dad is bringing over my old daybed today for my daughter. She's moving out of the toddler bed into a big girl bed, and I'm going to try making her stay in it all night. She almost always comes into our bed sometime in the wee hours. Anyone already dealt w/ this? Advice?

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How old is she, nmpixie?

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Call me crazy, and you all know that I don't have kids, but I'm going to post on behalf of the children. As a youngin, I had a (longish) stage where I was always wanting to sleep with my parents, because I got so scared! I have a very vivid imagination, and I was always terrified. I love my parents, and they are great, but there was never any understanding, or trying to. I mean, I get that it would be annoying..but they were always just mad that I wouldn't sleep in my own bed. Anyway, I'm trying to say that if my parents had calmly had talks with me, and explained that there's nothing to fear, and things are taken care of, etc., it would have been a much easier transition. You know what I'm saying? Not that you aren't doing this, I just think that's important.

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Hey, all! my dad is bringing over my old daybed today for my daughter. She's moving out of the toddler bed into a big girl bed, and I'm going to try making her stay in it all night. She almost always comes into our bed sometime in the wee hours. Anyone already dealt w/ this? Advice?

Noah came into our bed from age 18 months to about 7 years old. I actually loved it! Its really such a short time in the grand scheme of things.....once we bought him a really cool bed (at age 7) he stopped. It was actually sort of sad.
We had our alone time at night....and he would come in in the middle and didn't even disturb us. I found it comforting to wake up with him by my side. :)

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How old is she, nmpixie?

She's 3 1/2. Yeah, my husband doesn't want her to stop, but that's because he sleeps like the dead! She doesn't wake me up when she comes in, but then she slaps me repeatedly, puts her feet on my chest and pushes really hard, headbutts me, etc. She is asleep when she does all this, but it's gotten to the point that I'll go sleep on the couch sometimes. I talked to her about getting a big girl bed and how I'd walk her back to her room and make sure she was OK.

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How old is she, nmpixie?

She's 3 1/2. Yeah, my husband doesn't want her to stop, but that's because he sleeps like the dead! She doesn't wake me up when she comes in, but then she slaps me repeatedly, puts her feet on my chest and pushes really hard, headbutts me, etc. She is asleep when she does all this, but it's gotten to the point that I'll go sleep on the couch sometimes. I talked to her about getting a big girl bed and how I'd walk her back to her room and make sure she was OK.

well, yeah, in that case....hopefully she will love the bed!
just keep talking up the coolness of the big girl bed and make it a really inviting place for her.
put pics of you and daddy on the headboard?

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thanks, l2a!

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You can also try putting her mattress on the floor in your room, so she is near you, but not in bed with you, then gradually move her bed further to her own room.  I had some friends who had success with this.

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Another thing they did was to have mom and dad sleep with a blanket and pillow for a few days to let it smelll like them, then put it on their girl's bed, so it was comforting to her and felt like they were near her.  I have done that for my kids too, it helped when my daughter was going thru a clingy phase.

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good ideas. The bed will get put together tomorrow, so we'll see how it goes. I imagine lots of mommy getting up and walking her bcke to her room.

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