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Edison's Demonstrations with Animals

I don't know how to insert youtubes.  I came across this clip about Thomas Edison and his promotion of DC current.  Edison promoted DC current by having public demonstrations where he electrocuted cats and dogs.  I tried to cross reference it and I found other references to his electrocuting an elephant, so I'm assuming the cats and dogs are true.

It reminds me of the news article about feeding live calves to tigers in China zoos (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1266775,00.html).  There were comments, mine first, wondering how society would think it was acceptable.  Edison seems worse to me than the zoo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51BELRdkc5w

How hearbreaking.  :'(    I can't watch that stuff voluntarily.  Knowing about it is hard enough. 

I haven't figured out in my mind how to justify the past abuses we humans have committed even though some of it has led to greater discoveries and "greater good" in areas.  If only we had used our intellectual potential towards finding other successful methods of discovering that same knowledge; incorporated our amazing intelligence with compassion and respect towards living creatures and our environment.  How much farther could we have been now?!  I suppose, like the Tao says, you cannot have or understand good without bad.         

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It's funny, my dad and I were actually talking about this very elephant recently. I found her on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topsy_(elephant)

It's amazing how intelligent and emotional elephants are. They're known to grieve over their departed loved ones for years after their death, and they sometimes lash out against humans for our misdeeds. (As if we don't sometimes have it coming.) I guarantee the fact that one of her kills was an abusive trainer is no coincidence. It makes me wonder what would have happened to that guy, a human being fully capable of understanding what cruelty and pain are, if the elephant hadn't killed him. I'm under the distinct impression he wouldn't have been publicly executed. He probably would have just gone on to torment other animals for the rest of his career.

Gotta love that human sense of fairness!

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I've never admired Edison as a person anyway...the man who always had dinner with his job interviewees and never hired anyone who salted their food before tasting it; who had the factory workers eat their meals at his table and live practically in his house so he could control their behaviour; who took his wife on a cross-country train trip "honeymoon" that turned out to be a science convention, during which he pretty much ignored her, and who was pretty much an absentee father even in his own house.

At one time I was translating a "devotional" type mag for someone who for some odd reason was crazy about Edison and kept quoting these things--and trying to draw positive spiritual lessons from them!! I finally told my liason with the author that if I saw one more toadying crawl masquerading as a Bible lesson I would set fire to it and possibly to the author!! That calmed things down somewhat. ;D

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I finally told my liason with the author that if I saw one more toadying crawl masquerading as a Bible lesson I would set fire to it and possibly to the author!! That calmed things down somewhat.

That's funny!  I just started my cat by whoop laughing.

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Ok, I watched it.  Poor Topsy.  What an evil a$$hole!  >:(    >:(    >:(   

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Just 2 nights ago, I watched a documentary about Niagara Falls (I do love the history of this area). In the documentary, they discussed the "War of the Currents" between Thomas Edison & Nikola Tesla (who worked for Westinghouse) . Whoever could prove their current to be safest would win the contract to built the first hydroelectric power plant at Niagara Falls. It was Tesla, not Westinghouse who invented AC & the Westinghouse company won the contract.
The prize was huge & Thomas Edison was trying to discredit Nikola Tesla by using his AC to electrocute animals. The AC would indeed kill the animals where the DC would stun them, so in theory the AC was more dangerous.
Edison made it his mission to ostracize Tesla's genius & to some extent, he was successful at that.
AND, Nikola Tesla was vegetarian  :) Here is an interesting quote that I found on Wikipedia, "It is certainly preferable to raise vegetables, and I think, therefore, that vegetarianism is a commendable departure from the established barbarous habit." Tesla argued that it is wrong to eat uneconomic meat when large amounts of people are starving; he also believed that plant food was "superior to it in regard to both mechanical and mental performance." He also argued that animal slaughter was "wanton and cruel"

History lesson over :P

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Golly I had no Idea that Mr Tesla actually existed! They named the amusement park in Disney's "The Weekenders" after him...so I thought he was made up. (Yeah, I like that cartoon--yeah, I'm pathetic).

But then I didn't realise that Cyrano de Bergerac was a real person, either--I thought Rostand made him up for the play. He embroidered, but Cyrano was real, and WAS killed by his enemies for his sarcastic lampoons. A lesson to us all. :P

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Wasn't he a vegetarian though?
I don't get how people can just kill cats and dogs like they're a useless speck or an annoying fly on the wall (which i can't even kil!!!). That poor elephant! They're such intelligent and magestic animals.

Yes, Thomas Edison  like Tesla, both later in life became vegetarian. His experiments were done when he was much younger.....By all accounts he really was a SOB

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Im pretty sure Edison was veg...maybe thast how he would seek balance? That bothers me becasue I DID kinda admire Edison...may a lot, really....

Do you guys ever have specific memories from childhood that you know shaped you a certain way? Specifically, Im htinking of a time IN THIRD GRADE where we were watching a documentary about Elephants. They showed how the elephants were"broken" as claves in order to make them submissive to humans...tehy showed this horriic scene of a baby elephant...tehy showed teh progression of hours, etc (this was only like 1 minuet of the video.) I was HORRIFED. Like terrorized. I still think of that sceen. At the time, as a third grader, I just cried soem and internalized it. I didnt realize I had the RIGHT not to watch it. We did not talk about, in class, what it meant to abuse an animal. Or what we thought the animals was feeling...nope we talked about hoe Elephants help humans.

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Golly I had no Idea that Mr Tesla actually existed! They named the amusement park in Disney's "The Weekenders" after him...so I thought he was made up. (Yeah, I like that cartoon--yeah, I'm pathetic).

Most people don't know of Tesla, thanks to Edison. Tesla was a fascinating man who held over 1200 patents, mostly to do with electricity. He invented Alternating Current, radio, microwaves, vacuum tubes, X-rays, remote control, wireless technology (100 years early), he had a really cool electric car. Near the bottom of the page in the link.
http://www.reformation.org/nikola-tesla.html

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Thanks for the link...the language on the site linked is a bit...strident...but the info is interesting. The stridency gets more virulent the farther down you read. But I can manage.  ;)

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