Michael Vick - Again.
Posted by propinecone on Apr 28, 2009 · Member since May 2007 · 2842 posts
he's got a job offer for when he gets out of prison soon.. as much i want no one to ever consider hiring him again this is good..
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-arenateam-vickoffer&prov=ap&type=lgns
yeah, I guess. You suppose the obligatory donation is just to save face for offering the guy a job so soon?
possibly.. but they're seriously only offering him 200 bucks a week, which for a guy like this is a HUGE blow to the ego. i mean, thats less than unemployment. a huge insult to a ex pro that was such a big spender.. he won't take it.
On the bright side (for me), he won't be in Atlanta anymore. >:D
Yeah, but he'd be in Albany! EWWWWWWW!!!!
Yeah, but he'd be in Albany! EWWWWWWW!!!!
I second that, SO not ok.
Altough I don't really care much about football, nor do I have any favouritism for Michael Vick, this is an issue that we all know pales in comparison to factory farming. I'm sure you have caught a glimpse of the unfortunate hypocrisy of one of your omni companions expressing a loathing for Vick and his deeds while he or she munches down on a 100% all American factory farmed chicken breast or someone who is an avid 'angler' or recreational 'fisher'. It seems perhaps a greater crime that someone could willingly and daily support such a morally abhorrent industry as factory farming. Granted factory farming is more normal and accepted as is 'fishing', but that's obviously no good reason for people to participate in those pursuits. Ethically speaking, it doesn't seem that we can condemn Michael Vick before condemning the hundreds of millions of omnivores in Canada and America who, often without ignorance, support factory farming. Would ignorance even absolve them anyway?
I don't mean for this to sound like I am defending Michael Vick nor of course dog fighting; I don't really care about football (or in any partisan way Michael Vick). I just don't know if it is clear that we should condemn him before condemning the omni players in the NFL, or anyone else for that matter, who are active and daily patrons of factory farming. ??? That is if we should be condemning at all.
Of course these are just thoughts, and they are not meant to bear any ill whatsoever.
Hi there, herbasaurus!
I can see your point of view on this. Comapare it to other animal-rights causes, and it seems downright trivial. However, I do think it is important that people discuss this story. Why? Because when you break it down to it's pieces, dog-fighting and factory farming are almost the same: Torture and exploitation of animals for profit.
And while the details and circumstances are very different, discussing this story at least opens a door to further discussion of animal rights and a myriad of unethical practices. One that otherwise might not happen. People (at first) would be very unwilling to have a discussion about the money they spend to support the torture of animals. To discuss a non-dinner table scenario? They'd be more likely to talk and explore their feeling on ethical issues.
I participate on sports boards, and it's been interesting to see this topic discussed. In a lot of cases, it goes from "So what? It's just animals!" to a nuanced discussion of animal rights, and what is just plain decent to abide and stand by for as a human beings.
Change comes slowly. Don't dismiss an important opportunity to dicuss some of the underlying themes in struggle for a more cruelty free world.
It's like the goofy stuff PETA pulls out of their PR-holes every few months, maybe not much immediate value, but at least it gets people talking.
thank you ais - i could not have said it any better!
thank you ais - i could not have said it any better!
As I re-read my typo-laden/grammatical nightmare above, I am certain that you could have said it better, propinecone. But I appreciate the sentiment.
Damn, damn, damn.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/Eagles_confirm_Vick_signing.html
Any football teams in need of a fan? >:( (NFC east need not apply.)
I told Andy that no team that picked up Vick was allowed to be watched on my TV - so we're lucky he's on a team that doesn't play the Packers....I don't know if the Eagles ever play the Colts, but I can't say either of us will care....I'm not interested in the football, just the party surrounding it.
This is hilarious (the first one in the gallery is the best):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0908/nfl.michael.vick.newspaper.headlines/content.1.html
I hope he has reformed. I really do. I hope that all of this talk about finally understanding just what he did is true.
I seriously hav emy doubts, but for his sake, his family's sake, and for the sake of the aweness that can be raised and good that can be done for animals, I really hope all of his remorse is genuine. I'll even go so far as to wish hime well.
Now, as a Steelers fan:
It couldn't have happened to a better team. >:D
Now, as a Steelers fan:
It couldn't have happened to a better team. >:D
Seconded! Except maybe the Cowboys or the Patriots...
;)
I think it's time to leave Mr. Vick alone. What he did was hideous beyond comprehension, but it's done, he paid a huge price and it's time to let him live his life in peace without our judgement. Rather than continue to punish him for his past, perhaps people can go after those whom are still out there fighting dogs and other animals, or factory farms.
It irritates me sometimes how people gang up like a pack of wolves on someone, much like they did the Dixie Chicks.
I agree, Tweety. It's so done with, and there is no gain to be had by pummeling him for the rest of his life. I really don't care if he plays football--that has nothing to do with what he did.
It's easy to take out our anger about animal abuse on him, because he is a prominent figure, but let's put it in perspective. If we think he should have served a larger punishment, as I know many people do, then that's a fight on a different front, against the way animal abuse is penalized in this country.
Not saying I'm fond of the guy or condone his actions, but there is really nothing else to be done here, with him specifically. Better to focus our energy on other ways to fight that type of exploitation.
Also, the NFL is full of asshole behavior. This isn't exactly the first time an NFL player has done something unethical or unlawful. We can't expect some radical change in mindset just because this case involves animal cruelty.
I agree kate. There are certain professions such as teachers, nurses, doctors where a fenoly conviction means you lose your license to practice, as it should be......professional football isn't one of them. Like it or not it's still a free country.
We should chose our battles.
http://perezhilton.com/2009-08-18-alec-baldwin-defends-dick-vick
I like what alec baldwin said about this