For us Ladies : anyone hear about this?
Posted by yogaferret on May 23, 2007 · Member since Nov 2006 · 460 posts
And, are you excited about it as much as I am? ;)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/22/health/main2838834.shtml
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Menstrual cups (including the Diva Cup) are the best invention ever. Can't believe I lived for 12 years as a menstuating female without one.
Elizabeth
Totally! Since I got my divacup and some back-up cloth pads last summer I have not spent a penny on menstrual products, and I never leak anymore, and my bathroom garbage bin stays empty, and I hardly ever have cramps. I don't dread my period anymore... which I never thought would happen. </shameless plug for cups>
speaking of BC I had heard of a cervical cap (diaphragm type thing) approved in canada (or maybe it was france?) that you could wear for a long time ( in fcat days, prior to sex and after) and it let your period out... basically it had one way flow type of deal.... does anyone know what i'm talking about? i thought it was called "Lady something" or "Lily something"???
Are you talking about the Diva Cup?
http://www.divacup.com/
Nope the one I'm talking about is a BC device and allows your period to "go out" while it is in place... but doesn't allow sperm to "go in"
I wish I could remember the name!
But the Diva cup is cool! I had no idea they had this kind of product! I like the environmentally friendly aspect.
I still can't find the one i was thinking of... I was confusing it with these...
www.femcap.com
http://www.leasshield.com/index.htm
grrr...
Ok- about the diva cup... How does that work? The image I get in my head seems really gross, but I'm open to persuasion! I used to steal tampons because I felt like it was a product that women were forced to buy but men didn't have an equivalent. I'm over that, but it's still unfair!
About the BCP where you get no periods: how do you know if they're doing their "main" job?
Ok- about the diva cup... How does that work? The image I get in my head seems really gross, but I'm open to persuasion! I used to steal tampons because I felt like it was a product that women were forced to buy but men didn't have an equivalent. I'm over that, but it's still unfair!
It's not really gross unless your definition of gross includes getting some blood on your fingers (which you do with tampons too, usually). I have met very few people for whom the diva cup didn't work (and usually it was something about the location of the cervix or the size of the vagina, but sometimes it's also that people don't spend enough time trying to figure out how the cup fits their body). There are so many good things about the cup. It's cheap in the long run because it lasts for a long time, it's healthier than tampons, in some people it reduces cramps, no known incidences of toxic shock syndrome, no garbage, no leaking unless you're an extremely heavy bleeder, no profit for the "Sanitary" product industry run by men... It's fricken amazing. I never thought I'd turn into such a cup enthusiast, but here I am. I love my cup and I would be devastated if I ever had to use tampons or disposable pads again, even if just for one day.
I can tell you from experience, I was on BC for about 10 yrs because my then-gyn was a professor therof and I believed him. It led to my being taken OFF them when he retired (and if he hadn't been, they would have drummed him out) and I went straight into perimenopause 3 yrs later.
The new Gyn told me that I shouldn't try to have kids straight off the pill unless I wanted the poss of multiple births, because your body kind of goes into overdrive for about 4-6 mos after you stop. I guess a reaction.
I was v. young when I started my cycle (barely 11) and my periods were very very painful and very long (like 10 days) even when I was on BC. The only advantage to BC was I knew exactly when they would be. As a child I would even run a fever and feel nauseous. Now, I have itchy skin, night sweats (though they are less since I dropped about 25 lbs) and my periods are like 4 days or less.
I just can't wait not to do this, but I have no intention of taking a pill to make it stop. Nor will I engage in HRT when it finally does. Me, I think that if we're programmed not to do this at a certain age, there's a reason. But that's me.
totally not for someone who in uncomfortable digging around their vaginas. once you get it figured out, there are many benifits:
;D ;D YEP... I have to admit I read this as, "many benefits to digging around in your vagina" which well... yeah, duh. :) LOL
nice to see you around baypuppy, i hadn't come across you on the boards in a little while and I was about to send out a "where's baypuppy?" post!
YEP... I have to admit I read this as, "many benefits to digging around in your vagina" which well... yeah, duh. :) LOL
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hmm... I don't think this new pill is too revolutionary, since you could take only the "active" (non-placebo) b.c. pills continuously and not get a period.
I'm on Depo, and for me that means no periods. (most women too, but apparently some get spotting. nothing compared to a full-on period, though). I agree that "no periods" seems like a cool thing at first, but after a while I kind of miss them ::) I mean, here's this messy, painful thing I've had to deal with since 11, but because it's such a symbol of "womanhood" and fertility, I miss it in that way, and it's also just such a release for your body in a weird way.
Depo basically works by synthetic progesterone, which prevents ovulation because it apparently "tricks" your body into thinking it's pregnant. Result: no estrogen fluxuations, no breasts sensitizing/relaxing/etc, and me on a fake pregnancy "high" (progesterone makes lots of women happy). That's cool and all, especially as apparently letting your breasts "relax" rather than tensing and releasing every month lowers risk of breast cancer, but sometimes I think my uterus secretly hates me... I even went off Depo at one point just to restore my natural hormonal balance and not mess around with my body for a while, and like a lot of people, it took forever for my period to come back, and even when it did it was a little crazy. I took a month's worth of low-dose pills just to get the damn thing back in the groove.
And here I am again, a "pregnant," ammenorrheaic (sp?), calcium-chugging vegan ???
Just remember that modern women now have WAY more periods than we have ever had, in all of history. The reasons: 1.) Women don't get pregnant as often. 2.) Because we have less children, we nurse less as well. 3.) We live longer, perhaps in part because we have fewer kids...
If the period is very painful, I'm all for losing it permenantly. I'm lucky that I can control the pain thru "normal" BC...but until I found my current prescription, that wasn't an option. I would happily give up my period if it became a problem again.
Just remember that modern women now have WAY more periods than we have ever had, in all of history. The reasons: 1.) Women don't get pregnant as often. 2.) Because we have less children, we nurse less as well. 3.) We live longer, perhaps in part because we have fewer kids...
If the period is very painful, I'm all for losing it permenantly. I'm lucky that I can control the pain thru "normal" BC...but until I found my current prescription, that wasn't an option. I would happily give up my period if it became a problem again.
More periods sounds true...
This is also due to younger menarche (the first period).... which is possibly due to drinking hormone laden cow's milk.... cultures who don't drink cow's milk don't have the phenomenon of menarche occurring younger and younger as we do.
( REF: The china study & eat to live)
I read in Eating for Life for Women (PCRM), that plant-based diets can cause periods to be farther apart (like 5 weeks instead of 4), and that more animal products in the diet can cause them to come more often, heavier, and more painful (more painful because of the higher saturated fat, and generally worse because of a steeper estrogen drop).
Weird thing is, apparently women with plant-based diets (i.e., not necessarily vegan, but also from cultures where that's life) are more fertile, though they will ovulate fewer times during their life (cycles are further apart, first menstruation occurs later, and menopause comes earlier). I guess each ovulation is more "potent"?
I read in Eating for Life for Women (PCRM), that plant-based diets can cause periods to be farther apart (like 5 weeks instead of 4), and that more animal products in the diet can cause them to come more often, heavier, and more painful (more painful because of the higher saturated fat, and generally worse because of a steeper estrogen drop).
Weird thing is, apparently women with plant-based diets (i.e., not necessarily vegan, but also from cultures where that's life) are more fertile, though they will ovulate fewer times during their life (cycles are further apart, first menstruation occurs later, and menopause comes earlier). I guess each ovulation is more "potent"?
Hmmm... this is very INTERESTING to me... my cycle which was 35 days when i was a vegetarian shortened around the time i began to eat meat again to about 30-32 days and then went back to the long cycle since i've been vegan. I always assumed BC was the culprit but i wasn't on BC for the cycle shortening...maybe it was a factor but now I wonder... hmm...
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The new Gyn told me that I shouldn't try to have kids straight off the pill unless I wanted the poss of multiple births, because your body kind of goes into overdrive for about 4-6 mos after you stop. I guess a reaction
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Yup that's me... I learned the hard way not to put hubby in charge of birth control. I was preggers (with twins) within 2 weeks of going off the pill. d'oh
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not menstrating at all freaks me right the frig out. no matter how many times someone tell me that it's all okay and that there's research on this that and the other thing, i just cannot come to terms with losing my period altogether, by my own doing. in fact, i have flat-out refused (much to my mother's disdain) to use birth control pills of any kind. it is condoms for my partner and i, all the way. i just can't see myself regulating that kind of thing, ya know? i feel like i would be betraying my body or something...i know it sounds silly, everyone kills me for it. i have on and off again toyed with the idea of using bc mostly only to highten my sex life (went as far as making an appointment once) but something inside me just screams NO. all of that being said, i do not mean to offend of pass judgement on anyone who uses this new pill or other forms of bc, each to her own (as was already said) and do what ya need to do, really. i guess it just isn't for me.
and oooohh the diva cup!!! hooray, i'm glad it was mentioned here. i cannot use the diva cup due to a silly cervix but i am forever plugging it to women i meet. that and cloth pads and at least unbleached tampons and pads. ALSO, i was talking to a woman at grassrots in toronto about the diva cup and she was tell me that you can even mix the mentral blood with a bit of water and por it into the soil of your plants and have it sort of act like a fertilizer. i dunno how all that works, but she said she does it and it works.
gah what a long post.
warmth.
ALSO, i was talking to a woman at grassrots in toronto about the diva cup and she was tell me that you can even mix the mentral blood with a bit of water and por it into the soil of your plants and have it sort of act like a fertilizer. i dunno how all that works, but she said she does it and it works.
I do that. I empty the cup in the shower and take some kind of container with me into the shower to keep it in. That way it's less messy. Some of my plants absolutely love it, and some don't like it much. My aloe doesn't like to be fertilized by blood but my jade plant, my devil's ivy, and my polka dot plant all love it. I have yet to see if my spider plant likes it. It's great because I feel like I am giving part of myself back my little green friends rather than buying anonymous chemicals at the store.
Ok, you guys convinced me. I just bought a Diva Cup. ;) Thanks!
a few months after i started using the patch one of the girls on pregnancyweekly found a article about how even though the girls who died didnt smoke they still died. one died shortly after having her baby. so now thats y i wont use a bc that has hormones in it. i havent been on any bc since merrick was a yr old. i told jason this that we either use condoms or i get the copper iud. when i told zack's cousin jerry that i wanted to go on the copper iud she told me not to and that her mirena iud didnt have hormones in it and i told her it did. i know for a fact it does b/c i got a info packet from them. shes supposedly allergic to the hormones in all bc. ::) when i get the money i will get the diva cup. i spent $30 all on friday b/c we went to udf for some ice cream and hollywood video for a couple of movies. bought gone in sixty seconds for both jason and i (his birthday was friday). $19 for the movies, i think $12 for the ice cream for the 3 of us and a $ or 2 for coinstar.
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